Hello Everyone..

topic posted Wed, May 7, 2008 - 5:15 AM by  Missy Jean
I am new to the tribe network...My husband and I have watched as life in these here United States is getting a little hairy and have started talking and planning What would we do...I found this siteand just about fell over..I was amazed at all I was reading..what thought provking topics you all discuss after a week or so of reading the older posts and navigating my way through this site I decided to join up....I thank you all for the advice, links and the plain old fashion games of what if...

We have three young boys 10 yr old 2 yr old and 2month old......

What's your suggestions and or advice on having children to tend of during a wtshtf situation.......

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Missy Jean
Ohio
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    Wed, May 7, 2008 - 5:55 AM
    Welcome! glad to have you.
    In response to you Q I would say that it is never to early to start traing your children in the basic needs and duties of a survival situation, I dont know if you fall into the bugout or homesafe situation. either way most of the basic needs are the same so I would start training the 10 yr old how to help with those duties, along with training in your emergency plans rather it be bugout or secureing your perimeter
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      Wed, May 7, 2008 - 7:11 AM
      I have two daughters that I have raised as survivalists,They are adults now, 18 and 20. But as they were growing up I always tried to keep it fun for them. Learning the skills they would need to survive here on the homestead or in the back country, teaching them to garden, ride horses,take care of the livestock, learning to cook from "scratch", safe handling and use of firearms. Taking them camping and hiking in the mountains. Learning to fish and hunt. But always planning for a survival scenario.
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    Wed, May 7, 2008 - 7:45 AM
    Welcome, to add to some other answers to your question, I was an opps baby, both my parents were older when I came along and both survived the depression, so I was raised to not take things for granted, I still remember the stairs going down to the basement lined with packages of TP because Mom had found a good sale, I still store stuff in Mom's basement Freezer which is from the 60's. So it is a state of mind
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    Wed, May 7, 2008 - 9:38 AM
    My daughter is five and I've made teaching her new skills a game so she's eager to pick up anything that I throw her way. I make up songs to teach her things like which plants around our house are edible and which are not. Kids are little sponges, they're eager to learn anything new so long as you make it fun and keep it at a level where they can have small successes quickly.

    The hard part is training them what to do in an emergency situation when they're small. We do fire drills and roleplay emergency situations so that she won't just freeze if something bad happens.
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    Wed, May 7, 2008 - 5:20 PM
    I am excited to learn and teach my children about these things...I have alot to learn in order to teach. I didn't grow up in a home where these thoughts were shared..(who knows if they were thought about) I have a very open mind about all of these topics..In respone to the bug out or stay put..
    staying on the homefront was my only thought how to survive here at the house with out the "finer things" but as I look around I realized that not only do we have two major rail tracks in our town that hauls everything under the sun we have two fuel oil storage tanks and some HUGE propane storage tanks. Chemical spills and fire are defenitly bug-out times..I just really need to evaluate what could really go wrong (besides the obvious economic collapes were headed for.)
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      Wed, May 7, 2008 - 6:29 PM
      Welcome to the tribe! I don't have any kids yet, so I can't really offer any advice there without sounding beligerent. Paige's got it down to a thing of beauty though, I'd listen to her!

      You are very, very welcome to the tribe!
      I'm glad to see more and more plain folk joining up in these tribes. I'm glad to start seeing Wal-Mart selling 55 gal water tanks, and food storage systems. I'm so very glad to see more and more of the mainstream adopt smart preparations and start looking at self-sufficiency a little more. The storms of the past few years are sound reason enough, but I think more and more people are sensing something funny coming down the pipeline. The more good families start getting ready, the better off we will all be.
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    Thu, May 8, 2008 - 1:10 PM
    First off , WELCOME! 8-)
    Secondly as to your question....I don't have kids myself so I cannot speak from experience but I would offer this one peice of advice....get rid of the television or only watch it as a family and then only chosen videos. Most libraries will have them to check out for free.
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      Fri, May 9, 2008 - 7:29 AM
      I got rid of broadcast TV a long time ago, we do have an entertainment system, but we are movie watchers. My youngest daughter made a comment awile back that she doesn't have time to watch TV. There must be something to it, one daughter was the Salutorian for her high school class, and the other is the Validictorian. Both were able to pick the college they wanted to go to, as they had offers from all of them. They both chose to stay close to the home fires in case the SHTF. Both have BOB's in their trunks and keep their gas tanks above 3/4.
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    Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:09 AM
    Well my mind has been like a rat on a wheel..my husband finally had to say..breath Kitten breath..one step at a time..So I commence on a journey to change the mindset of my family. I am taking active steps to prepare. Not going to be the one to talk about it and think about it and watch what percious time is left slip away. I have prepared the bags although they are not completely what i envision them to be. Just small necessities and I WILL build them (when money allows). I also started playing the what if games with my 10yr old to see what his mind comes up with.. I have a worry and Survial Mamma maybe you have thought this through..My sons school has a lock down system, meaning at times (and I think a SHTF situation would fall under them) they allow no one in/out of the school. And when the crash happens or the Zombies start digging up from our local cemetery's I want to jump in my gas guzziling SUV and get my boy..
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      Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:57 AM
      They won't release your children to you? I would probably be in jail if that were to happen to me.
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        Fri, May 9, 2008 - 9:36 AM
        Agreed.
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          Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:47 PM
          Yeah, I think you might want to work that out with your boy's school beforehand. If they have a lockdown policy, you should know about it. In fact, all the parents of that school should know that if a man walks in with a gun and starts shooting people, the teachers will trap all their children inside, behind locked doors. Who knows? you might even get a stupid policy changed. If they absolutely won't listen to you, Let them know they will be releasing at least one boy out of the school, or they will have one more dangerous threat to deal with in a lockdown emergency!

          Right around columbine time, about a year later, there was a rash of lesser (if they can be called that) school shootings, I remember in particular one boy who took a .22 rifle, tripped off the fire alarm, and shot at the lines of students and teachers who lined up like ducks in the playground area, fire safety protocol.

          I remember that one because I kept thinking about it when a bomb threat was announced at my highschool, and they made the WHOLE SCHOOL get out, line up, and file into the TENNIS COURTS.... I dunno, they maybe thought the twenty foot high chain-link fences would protect us from flak....

          When I saw what they were doing, all I saw was a death box loaded with panicking people, trapped behind twenty foot high chainlink walls with only one or two small exits.... Just waiting for some kid with a gun on the roof of the school, or wherever.

          I let my friends know that I wasn't going in, and they weren't either. They didn't question me. We took off. We got noticed, were told to stop, I told the principal he could screw himself, I'm not getting into that death box. We took off, the tennis courts weren't far from landscaping (cover/concealment), and then houses. We went home for the day.

          Of course, we were the first people implicated as suspects for the bomb threat! OF COURSE.... because we didn't comply with their ill-thought-out concentrative death plan. Fortunately for us, the prank caller, as it turned out to be, turned herself in after seeing all the drama that was erupting in our little town.
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      Fri, May 9, 2008 - 9:51 AM
      My daughter's school has a variation on a lockdown system and, honestly, if I somehow wasn't able to get to her, I'd prefer she be with her teacher, who is one of the most trustworthy individuals I've ever met. If they lock down, you need to use a numerical code on a keypad to get into the main office and, then they need to recognize you before they'll let you have your child (it's a small school so they know all of the parents), though they'd probably be as likely to offer you shelter at the school until whatever danger it was had passed.

      In my daughter's cubby at school is a small emergency bag that I made up with some high-calorie snack bars, two bottles of water, one MRE (spaghetti), a small bag of her favorite candy, a poncho, clean socks and underwear, a snuggle toy, and a flashlight. Her school already requires that she have a pillow, blanket, change of clothes, and rain boots in her classroom at all times.

      If you're worried about the school's policy, then make an appointment to discuss it with a school administrator.
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    Sat, May 10, 2008 - 6:10 AM
    Paige is the ATHORITAH on being a survival mamma. She has a web page that's pretty cool. You have probably seen it by now.

    We sent our kid's to paige for training. She taught them to evade capture and survive. She made them expert's with gun's and knives and their bare hands. She trained them to ignore pain and weather, to eat thing's that would make a billy goat puke, to win by attrition.

    I'm just kidding, she probably could though. On a serious note Paige probably has more knowledge on medicine's and good grazing plant's than all of us put togather. Except for maybe Chuck.
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      Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:30 AM
      Brent, you kill me (no, not really, stop pointing that laser site at me).

      It's important to teach your kids when to intelligently disobey authority, but it's really hard to do. I go about it by giving my daughter a lot of choices about what she eats, what she wears, what she does for fun, etc., because I want her to be able to think for herself. I propose hypothetical situations to her and we talk about ways to handle those situations. Already she shows good traits like being able to walk away when playmates are misbehaving. She's one heck of a problem solver, too.
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        Sun, May 11, 2008 - 1:00 PM
        My kids bitch endlessly about camping and hiking, but they always have fun. Teenagers!

        You can find a lot of really great <brand new> camping gear at swap meets. It's like exercise equipment, people buy it with the best of intentions but end up using it as a clothes hanger. A couple of years ago I upgraded them all to full frame packs with vented sleeping bags. Each kid wears a whistle when camping (easier to locate a lost kid.)

        My problem is that my kids inhereted their mother's finicky palette so most of what I cook on the trail they won;t eat. I always figured they'd change their tune when they got hungry enough.

        My family is the primary reason that I take survivalist precautions. Come hell or high water, they will survive, even if I gotta shoot a mountain of zombies to do it.
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          Sun, May 11, 2008 - 1:07 PM
          That's how I got my eight-person/two-room tent. A friend bought it, used it once, was going to throw it in the garbage! It's more tent than I generally need but it is fun for trips to the beach and such.

          My daughter loves to camp but since she's only five we've been avoiding places with long hikes in as of yet. Mostly beach campgrounds and parks that are easy for her little legs to navigate. Thankfully she's not a picky eater.

          Make 'em pack and plan their own meals if they're finicky, maybe they'll appreciate the effort it takes to prepare food on the trail. Or, worst case scenario, you end up living off of crackers and canned cheese for a weekend.
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            Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:18 PM
            Speaking of large tent's, I like those two 8 foot drop lumber tarp's I have on my flat bed trailer, with the flap's on the end. They would make an awesome 48 foot lodge for a family. I got the black one's instead of the red or blue just so they would be easier to camo if you wanted to use them for that. They do weigh close to 100 pound's apiece so they arnt something you could throw in your back pack.

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