The only possible enemy left to fight would be each other. It will be all the survivalists. But, with fewer people in the world, we will find new recources and they will be abundant. It will be a new way of life for some and those who will suffer are those who cannot adapt. Perhaps we wont have to fight each other..........But ......That wont last for long either because Man is a very warlike creature. The cycle will begin again.

The only thing that would end us is a Zombie Apocalypse. Thats truly a "the end of the world" Monster movie.

watch out for the H1N1 Swine Flu epidemic. I suspect it will have something to do with it as well as the vaccine for it.

funny how a number of survivalist people actually think its a possible dissaster scenario........scary, that!

yeah. he sure is quiet lately

Lol. first of all Mitch would have to know where in Michigan I am. There over 5,000 lakes pick one ha ha ha .

Mortars? If I am facing mortars I am facing the military and Im screwed no matter what. I would never fight a military force. That would be suicide.

The 30-06 remmingtons are my long rifles and though I Like both the M1A and the old Garrands they are heavy and I already have 4 , 30 caliber rifles. The Ar-15 is not an assault rifle. That is term that was given to military styled rifles during the Clinton socialist reign. Assault means to attack so any rifle used to attack or assault a position is or can be an assault rifle. Muskets were assault rifles as were any type of rifles used in war. The correct deffinition of my New Bushmaster AR-15 is a military grade semiautomatic rifle. The .223 is a great round for the battle field. You can carry twice the rounds as any of the bigger 30 cal stuff. Mags are inexpensive and ammo is not as COSTLY as 30-06.

Also dont look down on a ruger 10-22 . Mine is bad to the bone with 30 round magazines and CCI mini mags. One well placed round and I can turn any man into a monkey instantly . They dont kill as fast but they kill just as dead. I can throw a lot of lead down range with my 22 rifles and not waste the good stuff until I get that clear shot. (when you think my barrel is shot out and you charge up the hill). Make no mistake I know how to use every weapon I own. I know the effective range and power of them all. I wouldnt feel under armed with just 10 thousand rounds of .22 lr. Would it be my first choice? No. second choice ? depends on how many bad guys, where they were and what they were doing. I would use the .22s to keep fire on them. (supressing fire) make them keep thier heads down or drive them off. I wouldnt waste the big stuff on that.

The shotguns are the last line for those inside of 40 yards and running at us scenarios. Then its buckshot as fast as I can pump the 870. My wife , son and brother all have Shotguns as well as .22's .


The main Idea of this post , the Title, ( what do you see happening) answer. I dont see the the total collapse of society. I see several large cities falling into chaos but one thing many in the survivalist community fail to see. Our country was set up to function as Federal, state , county and city governments.

For instance if Washington falls(nuked) each remaining state governor can declare thier state soveriegn and is already set up to govern it. Each state can and would operate as an independent country until a new federal government is established. They can raise armies, call up the militias and or guard units in thier states. Anyone who thinks we are headed for a Mad max scenario , wasteland with complete anarchy is going to be surprised.

I have three boats. all can be used for a survival plan. My 18 footer has 115 hp and can cross lake Michigan in 2 to 3 hours or lake Huron in 4 to 6 hours. It all depends on where you launch and where you try to cross. Its not armored but it holds 30 gallons of gas plus extra gas can be carried in cans. It has on board G.P.S. so I could go from Michigan to, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio, or Canada if I had to. In fact I could travel all the way to the Niagra falls by boat . I f I had to run from Michigan my boat could be the best way to avoid traffic jams and road blocks. In Chicago the Welland Canal connects lake Michigan with the Illinios river which connects to the Mississippi river. I know three old timers who have taken thier cabin cruisers all the way to New Orleans.

My 14 foot Jonboat can travel on any small lake or river and this can be a real plus in escaping or helping someone reach the safety of our compound. I also have a 16 foot canoe and a pedal boat. And yes Sean I have two short swords that I made. Lol. Michael