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We've all been faced with this scenario:
Your (family member, co-worker, neighbor, friend) who may have discovered over the years that you're one of the more disaster-prepared individuals of society.... They make you the butt of jokes, talk about tinfoil hats etc....
And somewhere toward the tail-end of the survivalist-jabbing conversation, they make a comment to the effect of ''Well, I know where to take MY family if something bad happens" with a nudge and a smile.
Let's kick around some thoughts and feelings about these so-called friends who reserve their own seats at your food-storage table and in your fallout shelter. How do you deal with these situations?
Your (family member, co-worker, neighbor, friend) who may have discovered over the years that you're one of the more disaster-prepared individuals of society.... They make you the butt of jokes, talk about tinfoil hats etc....
And somewhere toward the tail-end of the survivalist-jabbing conversation, they make a comment to the effect of ''Well, I know where to take MY family if something bad happens" with a nudge and a smile.
Let's kick around some thoughts and feelings about these so-called friends who reserve their own seats at your food-storage table and in your fallout shelter. How do you deal with these situations?
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Re: Rainy Day Reservations
Fri, October 30, 2009 - 6:35 PMumm no, I really dont mind helpin ppl. I plan on it.store extra supplies for ppl in need, not for lazy parasites -
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Fri, October 30, 2009 - 7:25 PMI do to, but I resent the fact that while I'm squirrelling away my preps and some charity out of the goodness of my heart, others are spending that same portion of THEIR budget on toys and vacations, and counting on ME to do all the sacrificing that they don't want to.
The grasshopper knows the season is coming, knows he is being foolish, so instead of changing his ways he just counts on guilt-tripping the ant into sharing.
I do plan on having extra supplies, food, weapons, and even living quarters to help people out.... HOWEVER I intend those things for the unforseen circumstance. People who are already planning to abuse them, it just pisses me off. I just might turn them out sooner than let them take advantage of me intentionally. -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 9:01 PMI would say reserve those supplies for people you can use.
Its already been touched upon - but basically you're trading skill sets at that point. You prepared, they went to med school.
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Fri, October 30, 2009 - 11:13 PMSometimes I tell them to bring a bulletproof vest with them. Other times I tell them that all the women are invited. If I want their company, I tell them they can show up, but they need to bring a car load of supplies with them. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 5:55 AMI'd probably only accept the worthy ones, as in people who aren't afraid of work. More than happy to purge the ones that don't.
When ever I talk about SHTF with friends or relatives, they don't think they'll see it in their life time, so they don't really care . Plus I put it in a way so they don't think I'm prepairing, fact is I have heaps of natural resources. Short list Clay, iron ingots, copper and gold 15 mins away at the local mine, trees of various hard and soft wood. That's just a few.
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 11:00 AMI smile and nod. Also I don't talk about it much with my family/friends, that's partly why I'm here.
They don't get a pass because they know me. I figure it only counts if I have told you, "you're welcome if the worst happens". I take that seriously and don't say it lightly. Those people have a pass, family and friends, if they can get here. Everyone else better bring supplies, weapons, really good skills or useful books.
2 day pass? if supplies allow, I'd offer 2 nights to a visitor who brings useful supplies/skills, clearly stating that they leave the morning of the 2nd day without being asked. Meanwhile, evaluate whether you will offer them refuge if their pros outweigh their cons.
I know I may be off your original topic here, to come back to it, I think through the what ifs now to avoid making emotional decisions when the time comes. -
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 4:02 PMI have only one person in my life with whom I discuss my preparations in depth. I have 3 others who only vaguely know of my plans. One is the spouse of my "very good" friend, another is a childhood friend who has their own retreat all ready to go, and the third is a person very close to me that now thinks I'm a little whacked, and that is too bad for them. The last person is the reason I don't breathe a word to anyone else; the rolling eyes are too much for me to tolerate. Also, I take this VERY seriously, and don't want extra unwanted bodies pounding on my door.
I hate when religious nut missionaries try to persuade me towards their beliefs, so I respect others (who might not agree with me) by not pushing my own agenda. I feel sorry for the sheeple, but ignorance is bliss until TSHTF. They hang onto the belief that there will always be someone else to break their fall. I don't want them to believe that I can even help in the first place. -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 1:50 PMPeople always rib me about being paranoid when I would try to talk about being prepared for survival situations. Most of my black and latino friends are totally un-prepared. Some even refuse to acknowledge that something like dissaster can happen close to them.
They will most likeley be depending on FEMA if it comes around.I have a few guys that I know that are just waiting for some shit to go down.
They are somewhat prepared. I only say "somewhat" because they aren't preparing to bug out or stock up on provisions and learn usefull skills. They are my White rocker friends who are stocking up only on guns and ammunition and their tunnel vision has them merely anticipating defending their family in gunfights. They have some outdoor skills, but they have not spent money on anything other than Marijuana, guns, booze, and ammo. Oh yeah, and knives! shitloads of knives.
As far as the people who have made jokes and shit about my skills and preoccupation with survival. I imagine they will get a big wake-up call when something happens. They always tell me that they know when to run to if something happens. They end these dumb jokes with that. I am already appraising people who might come to me and try to last minute join up as to measure what they might be useful for. But yeah. These stupid jokes makes me want to slug them. -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 8:04 PMYour white rocker friends and ilk of their mentality are the reason my walls will be bullet proof and my guns will be kept loaded and well oiled.
The others don't concern me, they pose little threat to anyone but themselves.
NONE of them would I consider worth apraising, and ALL of them I would consider off-limits to information such as knowledge of any preps of yours.
I'm not worried much at all about the black urban gangsters thirty or forty miles from my retreat. I'm VERY worried about the KKK backwoods hillbillies with horses and survival know-how, 120 miles to the southwest.
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 2:51 PMI will defend my family (and a couple friends) to the death. If they are bugging out of NBC attack/earthquake/Yellowstone exploding/what have you, they are welcome to bunk with me.
That being said there will be rules that will be followed. It will be my way or the high-way...and they can decide. Chances are they will do it my way...if they decide not to they can be shown the door and I will say, "if you walk out that door, you never come back..good luck and God bless."
It does aggravate me that they have not prepared. It urks me they think I'm slightly insane. But, if and when the time comes, I can guarantee they will see me as the smarter one. They will feel bad for the comments they said. They will finally "get it"... better late than never... and as much as these people may aggravate me they are the people who raised me, wiped my ass as a kid, taught me life lessons, and basically are the people responsible for me being alive today (surviving thus far). And when my Dad gets so old he can't wipe his ass I'm gonna be there for him...that's just how we do things. So if I'm already prepared to give up my life for them, it's a no-brainer that they will be allowed into my compound... and we can share the granola bars and MREs. -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 4:44 PMI feeling a lot of love out there because of the replies on this topic. It's refreshing.
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 8:17 PMBrent is the only guy within 1,000 miles of me who knows me and knows that I'm a prepper. There are many reasons why I relocated across the country, and preparational anonymity is among them. I'm planning to not even let my kids know, lest they brag to their friends before they're old enough to understand the importance of some kinds of privacy.
So as I said, I do believe the best answer is to completely head these sorts of problems off early. I guess we all come from vastly different families. Mine is one that, at this point, I feel justifiably and moraly liberated from any and all obligations, ties, favors, or affections. So it's an easy matter for me to cross them off the list if they mock or persecute my perspective.
I will have at least a couple extra spots in the shelter, and several extra allotments of rations. But I'm in no hurry to fill up reservations or pick a VIP list.
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 2:45 PMive been learning and stocking up since the 70's, most of my family helps on and off tho they do say im a lil touched, mom is 100% behind me, my so-called partner had to e locked out of my stockpiles as she lied to give my stuff away to her family and friends. for the most part tho the family has decided the old homestead is our best safety, lot of land, woods wildlife and pretty much all we need, until mom n dad kick the bucket they are in charge, then it comes to me and one of my sisters. we all work the 15 acres of garden, everybody works at canning and meat preservation. some of my brothers prefer hunting to the other work but oh well, they bring it, we store it.
as far as those who make the 'survivalist' jokes, ive a lil too much scot in me and my temper is well known:P ill take a ribbing in fun, but to beat the dead horse is askin for your own beating and when the time comes and we close the front gates, you dont come in unless youre invited
