making use of foil wrappers/packets?

topic posted Sat, February 2, 2008 - 11:19 AM by  Ms.Dynomite
been pondering this. Many food products come in a foil wrapper or packet, such as energy bars or hot cocoa envelopes. And many of the emergency or first aid kit items are foil-packed in single servings to help with the shelf-life. Even some potato chips have a foil-lined bag. Seems like there could be some use for these things once they're used, rather than having to pack them out or just discard them.

I'm thinking particularly in a 72hr bug out or long term survival issue. Some way to make these useful instead of trash. Foil reflects heat well, maybe there's some kind of insulation or cooking or warming that could be done with them? Some way to fasten several together kinda quilt-like to create a larger surface?

any thoughts on this?
  • Re: making use of foil wrappers/packets?

    Sat, February 2, 2008 - 7:37 PM
    You could make a hat.
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      Sat, February 2, 2008 - 8:26 PM
      I think Peter has the best answer. ;) that way They can't read my brain.


      though I was thinking more along the ideas of using the foil side of a wrapper under tinder to help with a fire or something, wondering if it would help reflect heat and help get the spark/fire going. or wrap it around lip balm or other things that get melty to help keep them from getting gushy in the sun. you know, stuff like that. ;)
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        Sat, February 2, 2008 - 8:34 PM
        I had a friend who did a stint in the locker, the inmates taught him how to make weapons out of potato chip bags. Origami style... each bag of chips folds into a hard, angular little 'origami' thing about a half inch wide and an inch long, quarter inch thick (very tight folding for a solid piece) , and you can fit many of them together, they tesselate and 'braid' into each other with a lot of strength. and with a quick swing and the right shape of construction they can deliver a nasty gash to the flesh. You can weight them by folding pinches of sand into each part.

        He took the same idea and just made picture frames and little crafts in his boredom time. Stayed out of trouble.
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        Re: making use of foil wrappers/packets?

        Sat, February 2, 2008 - 9:20 PM
        I guess you could smoke meth off a sheet of tin foil if you're into that kind of thing. But you can type coherently, so I doubt it.
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          Sun, February 3, 2008 - 10:12 AM
          Thousand,
          the foil knife is one of those fiendishly brilliant things that make me want to congratulate someone on the ingenuity and either scold them for putting it to use or just stay the hell away from them. ;) I'll have to go look that up now and learn how to do it.

          Chad,
          yeah, not so much with the meth. ;) but maybe I could keep them then sell/trade them to the end of the world meth heads. probably get a pair of shoes and a package of twinkies for that.
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            Sun, February 3, 2008 - 3:06 PM
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              Sun, February 3, 2008 - 4:23 PM
              thanks Paige. :) the potato bag zip cases use vinyl to reinforce them, so it's kind of cheating. but it's a neat idea to keep in mind that you an reuse the bags if needed.
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                Mon, February 4, 2008 - 1:26 PM
                I bet the vinyl could be replaced with sturdy packing tape in a pinch if you just needed some kind of small carry-all.
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                  Mon, February 4, 2008 - 1:32 PM
                  First aid for a sucking chest wound.

                  Admittedly any chest would would suck LOL. But one of the things I was taught was that with a sucking chest wound on for the things you need to do is to seal the hole and stop air from sucking in. Plastic wrap, wrappers, etc are a quick and dirty way to do this until advanced care can be had.
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                    Re: making use of foil wrappers/packets?

                    Mon, February 4, 2008 - 5:34 PM
                    Bob- Good tip, I hadn't thought of that, but it's exactly what you need for a sucking chest wound, a potato chip bag has better rigidity/flexibility properties for that than most plastics. Just remember to tape it to the chest on THREE sides ONLY... leave the down-facing side un-taped. 2 reasons: (1) allows wound drainage and (2) the whole patch can act like a valve, sealing against the chest during the suction of inhalation (leaking body fluids actually help create a better seal here) and opens to allow any froth of pneumothoratic air to escape during exhalation. in a chest wound, chances are good that you're not just leaking air into your thorax through the hole in your chest -your lung(s) could have a gurgly little hole too. You need some kind of passive valve to keep the chest cavity pumped out or you're even more screwed than you thought.
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                  Mon, February 4, 2008 - 1:45 PM
                  Paige,
                  good idea. :) you could probably use the larger bags as a water container if needed.
                  now I need to google to find something to do with the smaller envelopes, like from alcohol wipes or pills or powder drinks.

                  Bob,
                  that's good to know. let's just hope I don't have to use that tip. :)
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                    Re: making use of foil wrappers/packets?

                    Mon, February 4, 2008 - 1:54 PM
                    What does a sucking chest wound do?
                    It sucks.
                    Sometimes with more force than one might expect.
                    A gum wrapper is not sufficient in this respect as it is quite apt to be "sucked in".
                    Large surface area, please.

                    Enjoy!
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                      Mon, February 4, 2008 - 2:06 PM
                      I wasn't refering to a gum wrapper. Something that small is obviously not usefull in that manner. I was refering to larger items. One example right off is the packaging that the military field dressing comes in. In fact that's where I learned about it.
  • BUTT FLAP!

    Wed, February 27, 2008 - 10:55 AM
    I know many travelers/train-hoppers that construct a simple butt-flap to protect their clothing from getting wet or dirty in a time when they must sit down in a wet or dirty place. You simply attach your water-proof materials (foil, plastic, duct tape, leather, etc.) to a peice of cloth that is big enough to cover your ass, and blam-o... butt-flap! Most people then attach their creation to their belt or back pack so they can sit down if they need to, and not worry about sitting in something they may regret later...
    Another suggestion: just save the bags to put food (or anything else you want to keep contained) in later.
    • Re: BUTT FLAP!

      Wed, February 27, 2008 - 1:15 PM
      "Another suggestion: just save the bags to put food (or anything else you want to keep contained) in later."

      What? use bags as... bags?

      What kind of new wizardry is this?
    • Re: BUTT FLAP!

      Wed, February 27, 2008 - 5:47 PM
      One time my brother in law bought a whole cooked chicken from the grocery store and claimed he was going to eat the whole thing and I said I'll bet you dont eat the butt flap and he did.

      CLUCK CLUCK
      • Re: BUTT FLAP!

        Thu, February 28, 2008 - 8:57 AM
        eeeewww....

        ...not that kind of butt flap...
        although you may be able to make one of my butt flaps out of chicken butt flaps...
        • Re: BUTT FLAP!

          Thu, February 28, 2008 - 12:38 PM
          is that what the little square cloth is hanging off the asses of all the punk rocker wannabes? they always wear this little square rag attached to their belts, usually it is printed with the ramones or sex pistols or some other band that they try to pretend they're old enough to know who it is.

          I always wondered what is the deal with those things.
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            Thu, February 28, 2008 - 1:08 PM
            Thousand,
            yes, that's an old punk thing. it originally started because punks were well, acting like punks. which meant sitting on dirty floors and curbs and such. so they'd pin a bandana or something to help from ruining their one pair of pants, or requiring them to wash the pants. and sometimes the flaps were pinned on to cover up rips or holes in the pants because, being punks, they weren't living the high life and shopping at H&M every month.

            then it just became adopted as a style thing. I actually like it. it's sortof like a modern day loin cloth. I've had a design sketched for ages that's based on the flap idea, only has pockets. [/tangent]


            and yes, you can use bags as bags, but I was thinking more of the smaller things that aren't big enough for bags like instant soup envelopes, or hot cocoa envelopes, or packages for alcohol wipes or wet wipes. :)
          • Re: BUTT FLAP!

            Thu, February 28, 2008 - 3:17 PM
            <is that what the little square cloth is hanging off the asses of all the punk rocker wannabes?>

            yup, but it really started out with a purpose...
            now its big with the punk rock fashionistas... although I do like the style if your dirty enough to pull it off.
            I wear one when I'm backpacking or camping or something, but I guess I'm not fashionable enough to wear one on a regular basis.

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