Firearm and ammo storage

topic posted Wed, July 25, 2007 - 6:58 AM by  Cire
Just curious...anyone have any tips or recommendations for storing away their survival guns? Some of mine don't get used very often. What methods are being used to ensure your guns are staying dry, rust free, and protected? Most rifle cases are not airtight. Are large plastic bags the way to go? My attic is hot and dry. My basement is cool. I'm guessing the attic is best.

I have a little tip for ammo storage. Although its not an admirable habit, we all know someone who chews "snuff" tobacco. Those little canisters will hold exactly 50 22lr rounds and keep them dry and protected.
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Cire
Maryland
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    Wed, July 25, 2007 - 8:10 PM
    I store my ammo in sealed cans (coffee cans or surplus ammo containers) I also place at least one package of dessicant in each container. Every year or two I pull out all of them and throw them in the over for 10-12 hours to recharge 'em.

    Guns I try to store clean in a dry place. This is where the quality of the oil yoiu use comes into play. I have long had a preferance for 3in1 or Remlube, 3in1 being my favorite. For long term storage it's best to take the stock off the weapon, or do a full takedown, clean, oil, and wipe off the extra oil (don;t leave enough to puddle or leak into the stock. After assembly, take a lightly oiled rag and wipe down the outside of the weapon and try not to leave fingerprints (you can actually get fingerprints in the finish.
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      Sat, April 5, 2008 - 8:05 PM
      Is militech the name of the stuff the military used to store their gun's for 60 year's.
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        Sun, April 6, 2008 - 1:03 PM
        Cosmoline.
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          Sun, April 6, 2008 - 4:19 PM
          Thats good stuff.Have you seen the Mauser 98 for sale in all the gun Mags? They been in storage since WWII in cosmoline.
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            Sun, April 6, 2008 - 5:30 PM
            I hate that cosmoline crap... well, taking it off... on the other hand, I really don't think there's a more serious protective coating to put on metal parts you want to store till Jesus comes again and still have them in working order...

            It's cleaning that stuff off that's the nightmare. You can use solvents, you can use heat, but in the end you still wind up using a six-pack of paper towel rolls, and generally make a mess of your workspace that will be a second cleaning project all by itself... the cycle never ends!
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              Sun, April 6, 2008 - 8:45 PM
              Thousand, to remove Cosmo;ine you do it just like they did in the 19th century boiling hot soapy water, immerse and scrub with a bristle brush. best done on a hot sunny day so that the parts dry fast then light spray of gun oil and assemble.
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                Jay
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                Sun, April 6, 2008 - 9:56 PM
                I concur
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                  Mon, April 7, 2008 - 6:57 AM
                  I was in the Navy when they took away our 1911A1 and gave us those M9 junk. It took me forever to get all the cosmoline cleaned out of it. But your right about the hot soapy water a a couple of old tooth brushes.
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                    Dan
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                    Mon, April 7, 2008 - 10:03 AM
                    If you use axle grease it works just as good as that cosmoline crap but comes off a lot easier
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                      Mon, April 7, 2008 - 2:42 PM
                      I used to be a big fan of denatured alcohol for cleaning cosmoline. One of my favorite gun cleaners is avgas 100 octane. It cleans well, and evaporates so fast, with no left over residue.

                      Hot soapy water is great for black powder weapons. Windex or that blue windshield stuff are supposed to be the favorite of the old pros. I've cleaned guns in a bathtub before. A double 58 cal rifle picks up a lot of fouling after a day's shooting full house loads.
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                        Mon, April 7, 2008 - 9:30 PM
                        I think my wife would kill me if I rimmed the tub with cosmoline just to clean an old battle rifle. I've put parts in the oven on a cookie tray to melt the stuff out of them...an old bayonet scabbard comes to mind...remember the flashpoint of cosmoline is only about 300 degrees! Still, it left me with a relatively clean scabbard, and a really gunked-up puddle in my cookie sheet.... now what? hot soapy water? that accomplished about 80% of the work, and I ended up with a cookie sheet that still felt sticky, and a kitchen sink that felt sticky..and I'm sure the drain pipes are full of sticky, good thing it's just an apartment and I didn't like the owners.

                        So I end up ruining a brand-new kitchen sponge scrubbing the crap out of my cookie sheet, once again with more hot soapy water. same for the sink. It seems like I can STILL always clean off a bit of cosmo with a good rub of a clean paper towel on the wood handle...

                        I still stick with the mentality that you can't really 'clean' cosmoline..you can just keep displacing the majority of the crud from one surface to another.
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                      Fri, April 11, 2008 - 2:10 PM
                      I knew some kooky militia type guy's down in texas that had their gun's packed in axle grease and buried in the wood's somewhere. They said it worked good.
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                        Fri, April 11, 2008 - 6:12 PM
                        Cosmoline is basically axle grease..... It's all the shit left over at the bottom of the refining tank when they make various grades of motor oil, etc..... Some russian was like 'what the hell do we do with all this stuff, comrades?'.... and his subordinate officer suggested dipping things in it as a long-term storage coating. I'm sure he was shot for thinking like a resourceful 'capitalist pig' entrepeneur, but to-date, I don't think there's a better dip for gun parts out there.
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              Wed, April 9, 2008 - 10:42 AM
              The easiest way to remove cosmoline is low heat: 160 to 180-degrees. It will start to melt at around 115-degrees, but the shit really flows at 160 or so. You can use a heat gun if you have one available. There are instructions somewhere on the errornet for a "cosmoline coffin": two galvanised, metal trash cans with light fixtures wired to the inside, and a grate in the bottom on which to rest a firearm. I use something similar: a long, rectangular, sheetmetal box (like a trough) with a removable lid. The only significant difference between mine and the trash-can thing is that I use conical heating elements that screw into the light fixtures, instead of light bulbs.

              I disassemble a weapon as far as possible, put all the parts in the box, turn on the heat, and just wait. The cosmoline melts and drips right off. I use a tray made from aluminium screen (the same stuff that's used in windows) for the smaller parts. About every 20 to 30 minutes, I wipe down any wooden parts.

              I never use anything more than a rag and a toothbrush for the final rubdown, and a little kitty litter for the cleanup.

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