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Another cool new product to consider

2008-05-09T21:05:19Z

I saw this in one of my catalogs the other day and it seemed like a neat idea. Basicly they have combined a knife with a magnesium stick in one package. Knife and fire all in one. I have never bought anything made by Tool Logic, are they any good?

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=417654

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Storage of , wheat , rice and other grain

2008-05-09T20:52:31Z

A few years back I read that if one would drop some dry ice in the container in which grain was to be stored , then add the grain , the dry ice vapor would drive out the oxygen and make the grain " bug proof " and deter moisture problems . Haven't heard any more on it in years .... any ideas ?

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Hello Everyone..

2008-05-09T16:51:10Z

I am new to the tribe network...My husband and I have watched as life in these here United States is getting a little hairy and have started talking and planning What would we do...I found this siteand just about fell over..I was amazed at all I was reading..what thought provking topics you all discuss after a week or so of reading the older posts and navigating my way through this site I decided to join up....I thank you all for the advice, links and the plain old fashion games of what if...

We have three young boys 10 yr old 2 yr old and 2month old......

What's your suggestions and or advice on having children to tend of during a wtshtf situation.......

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apocalyps

2008-05-09T13:21:11Z

got a question how long do u think that things would be on a down hill slide till things evened out.

yeah i know different scenario's means different time frames. but im just curiouse as to what other ppl think on this

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And I shall call her "dead Reckoning"

2008-05-07T05:14:34Z

Well I am one step closer to my trip down south, I just purchased a motorhome today. She is older but she is strong! Of course I am broke again so I guess I better start selling more stuff.

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Eating Raul

2008-05-07T05:11:45Z

So, if things got so bad you and your family had to turn to cannibalism, would you have a preferance for dark meat or light meat? Would people who ate at fancy restaurants taste better than the fat guy who ate at McDees?

Anyone have any good recipies for truck driver?

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Where?

2008-05-04T23:01:26Z

Where when TSHTF Are you going to be? Where do you want to be? And why?

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Sorry!

2008-05-04T03:46:18Z

I havnt been ignoring you all I have just been so busy with packing and selling that I am totally behind on the posts, I should be on the move south in about a month(fingers crossed)

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Found objects

2008-05-04T03:33:20Z

I wanted to start a thread that would help us excersize our minds to think a little outside the box. I've posted a couple of pictures of items that is in my local and I wanted to get some suggestions of what they could be used for. One is of a batting net at a local school another is appearantly an abandoned car tow behind a strip mall. If others have similiar photos I would like to encourage everyone to participate in this little excersize.

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Slingshots

2008-04-30T06:09:57Z

Any thoughts on these? Anyone ever use them for anything other than plinking in the back yard? I had one that could do some pretty nasty damage to plywood when using ball bearings when I was younger.

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James Bond wants your input.

2008-04-30T05:59:58Z

What are some fun ideas/mods for a bug-out-vehicle?

I have a friend who mounted a small metal tank to his motorcycle, filled with antifreeze or fog-juice, with a 12-volt pump, and a copper line tapped into one of his header pipes. With a hot running engine, he can flip a switch and voila! instant whiteout smokescreen from his exhaust! (if you've ever been behind someone who blew their head-gasket, you'll know it really is a white-out fog.

Once I had a bike with a flame-thrower exhaust mod (spark plug in the exhaust end, with a coil.... choke the carbs to send rich fuel down the lines and voila! one or two feet of really loud FLAME out the back of your exhaust! I can't really think of any 'bugout' practical use for that one, but it was sure fun to show people!

Do you know of other neat doable (have been done) things to really trick-out and gagetize a vehicle? If you were a tinkerer and somewhat of a backyard engineer, had a vehicle you could dedicate purely as a 'bug out vehicle'... what kinds of mods would you do to it?

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Day pack's

2008-04-29T21:01:45Z

Ok, your going on a 10 mile hike. You don't plan on camping, Just hike 5 mile's, take in some scenery and 5 mile's back to the truck. You don't want to be loaded down like a mule but you still need a few essential's for the " what if this happen's ". What's a few thing's you guy's throw in a fanny pack for the "what if's" I usually carry a small first aid kit with a roll of vet wrap, ( vet wrap can be a good support bandage if not pulled too tight, and also a good pressure bandage to stop bleeding.) couple of lighter's, cheapo rain poncho and a few iodine tablet's. maybe a power bar or something. Of course a buck folder everywhere I go. Just looking for some other tip's from what you guy's might do.

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When do you extend yourself to help others?

2008-04-29T14:43:25Z

Or do you at all?

I have a neighbor whom I occasionally look in on because she's caring for her extremely frail and elderly mother who requires an at-home hospice set-up. I hailed her from my balcony this morning because we're supposed to have snow and possibly a big windstorm this weekend and asked her if they needed anything before the weather got bad. She said that they were fine, but I'm wondering if I should check again once the weather hits (if it does).

Now, I'd never do anything that put me and mine at risk, but I feel some obligation to help out my neighbors when I can. How do you guys handle this balancing act between compassion and survivalism?

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Where would you draw a line what you eat:are rats on menu or bugs beloved cats and dog: if you find food how do you preserve food

2008-04-29T04:33:06Z

Im not asking, Im asking can you? If you cant can I help you. how far could limits take you, do you test them ???????

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Personal Tales of Survival

2008-04-28T19:14:22Z

I'm wondering if any of us here have a personal tale of survival? It need not be heroic or even frightening. It might be something as simple as avoiding a catastrophe. So if anyone wants to share...this is the place.

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Sticky subject

2008-04-28T19:10:23Z

This is highly experimental and I post this full-well knowing it could go nowhere, or quickly downhill... but for the sake of exploration into a topic that threatened to hijack a previous thread, and apparently bears several strong opinions:

What are your thoughts on survival and divine intervention? Setting aside different ideas of theology or interpretations of spirituality... How much weight and what kind, do you give to spirituality, to divination, to the miraculous?

The guy who survives a failure to deploy on his parachute.... thousands of feet to the earth and survives... Luck? is there science or math or physics that can explain it?

We could get LOST in anecdotes about things which seem unexplainable except by some sort of intervention beyond what we would consider 'natural' or within any plausible statistical likelihood.

But not just those mysteries.... What do you think of the role of spirituality plays in a survival scenario? Do you think prayer has any bearing or effect on circumstance? To protect, or provide?

How about meditation?

What do you see as valuable in maintaining some of these abstract aspects of humanity during a crisis? Morals, religion, spirituality, emotional ties... They all relate to one another, though some more loosely than others. Just like physical stamina or conditioning... Or knowledge and skills, This whole other aspect of human experience must be there for a reason. What do you think of it's uses, value, or lack thereof when all the chips are down? does it make a difference or is that whole aspect of people's lives just a superfluous fabrication of tradition? Are we better off without it? what are we without it? why would we need it? does it help us at all?

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what is it called and how do I get one?

2008-04-28T18:52:24Z

Is there a term for a piece of privately-owned land that is locked on all sides by forest or BLM land? I know what I'm looking for, but I don't know where to look.

No road access, no utilities, no neighbors, and never will be any neighbors.

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Axioms to Live by

2008-04-28T18:49:10Z

It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
It's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt..
Revenge is a dish best eaten cold.(Thank you Nicolo Machiavelli)
If you want to see his face when he dies, use a good scope.(thank you Tom Clancy)
If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing well.
Live Free Or Die.(thank you New Hampshire)
Be Cordial to all, Sociable with many; but known to few.
When it comes to women you can be right or you can be happy, not both.
No time spent with a loved one is wasted.
OK those ore some of my favorites. Do you folks have any you'd be willing to share?

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New book!

2008-04-28T18:41:35Z

I finally bought myself a copy of "Where There Is No Doctor: A Village Healthcare Handbook" by David Werner. I can't wait to get it home and get out my highlighter. It was written for relief workers and covers treatment of all sorts of injuries and diseases, including leprosy, bullet wounds, and snakebite. Even good instructions for assisting a complicated birth. It also lists the best drugs to treat conditions so you could maybe do some checking at a veterinary supply house to see if there were any you could get your hands on that way. Now I need to get the three companion volumes that cover women's healthcare, dentistry, and veterinary medicine.

Definitely a must for the reference library.

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Any intrest or input?

2008-04-26T22:57:54Z

I am moving to New Mexico in the next few months and I will be purchasing a very large track of land off the grid.
I am interested in developing this land into a private community "camp ground" type consisting of 1-2 acre permanent spots with a very large community area.
members will pay a one time membership fee and givven thier own permanant spot. members can live full time or visit whenever they want. storage building can be erected on thier individual spot. this is a absolute annonimous location as far as the gov. will know I will be the only resident as the spots are on a basic 20 year lease
Basically a permanant bug out location, thier will be 24-7 security on location so all of your preperations are completly secure.
this a rough draft of the Idea, what are your thoughts?

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A survivalist singularity?

2008-04-26T00:46:33Z

Should survivalists declare a "safe haven" and start migrating towards that general location?

I realize that its not a feasible proposition for most people. But does it make sense on some level that like-minded people should come together to increase their chances of surviving, possibly even thriving?

I see definate utility in being surrounded by people who can take care of themselves while simultaneously contributing to the survival of those around them. I am also troubled by the idea that when stuff finally does hit the fan I could be surrounded by people who are utterly helpless and thus pose a liability, or worse, even a threat.

What different ways can we use to identify each other in public so that we can begin to build necessary local networks before things start to go awry?

Christians slap a fish on their car to identify each other, atheists use a fish with legs-- should we have something similar?

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what's going to happen?

2008-04-25T01:43:58Z

What do guy's think the most likely event will be that will collapse soicety in our country or world wide?

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Greetings

2008-04-24T17:34:29Z

I'm in SE Louisiana. I'm not new to the idea of survivalism, I'm more prepared than some, less than others. I don't have a local group but would like to be in one. I'll be reading the backlog for awhile and will post as the spirit moves.

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Solar energy systems

2008-04-22T16:32:12Z

What are the best ones?

What kind of wattage does a house need to produce/bank in the batteries?

What's it like, living on your own solar power? Do you have to ground the kids every time they leave the bathroom light on as you frantically run downstairs to check the ammeter on the battery banks? Or can you set it up to live pretty much like the average power consumer?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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NY Times article on the growing popularity of survivalism

2008-04-19T03:51:36Z

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/fashion/06survival.html

This article fails to mention that the falling value of the dollar on the global market is the true cause of the increase in oil prices in the US. I do not see it as a question of scarcity, as the author seems to imply (Has anyone figured in "newly retrievable oil reserves" to the peak oil models?). Countries that produce oil are not asking for more Euros, they're asking for more Dollars. That's because the Bush regime, installed by the globalist script writers to further their goal of breaking down the social and economic infrastructure of the US, has spent trillions of dollars that the US simply does not have. And we have only just begun to suffer for it.

Neither does the author mention that, in a sense, our fate rests in the hands of China and Europe, who continue to invest in US currency despite it's falling value and general instability. We could be cut off at China's' whim, overnight if they so choose. I believe the situation may be more dire than anyone cares to fathom, and if more people don't realize what's happening soon, panic and periods of chaos will be the inevitable result.

So... What do we do?

Relax. Take a deep breath. Stretch out a little, shake out all that anxiety and let the energy flow. Close your eyes. Forget what you know. Forget what you've been told. Remember that change is the only constant, and that change is always coming at a quicker rate, time spiraling in on itself as we approach the singularity. Consider the probabilities and decide upon a course of action that may increase the likely hood of the future of your choice, and begin to live it.

Plant a garden in your lawn, front and back. If you have friendly neighbors, ask if they will let you plant a garden in their lawns. If you live in an area that is subject to drought, build rain water collection tanks from supplies retrieved from the waste stream (assuming, of course, that waste is still flowing in your area). In Austin, TX and the surrounding areas, humanure is the latest trend amongst the genuine do-it-yourself hippies, and, believe it or not, its even catching on with the bohemian bourgeois. That's right, we're using human shit to grow our food, and wer'e doing it safely. Many are installing greywater systems to reclaim water from the shower, dishwasher, and laundry machines. Some of the greatest minds in the world are presently devising genius methods of living sustainably without "the shit-kicking life of peasantry" usually associated with "going back to nature". Sustainability is not just about getting by, it's about getting by brilliantly, using simple, genius methods to live comfortably in balance with nature, while simultaneously recognizing that she is a bloody bitch. This is not a return to the old ways, but a progression forward into new territory.

Talk to everyone you meet about scarcity, specifically in terms of food and water. Ask them why there is nothing edible growing in the fields, parks, and lawns in the area they inhabit. Point out to them how recent this development is in human society, and ask them whether it has benefited the community or the corporations. Now suggest something a little batty. They may even be ready for it at this point. Here it is: We live in a garden. You don't have to fight the traffic anymore, don't have to do all the stupid shit every day that makes you say "same shit different day" or "I'm doin" when I ask you "how ya doin?"

Imagine this: Wake up in the morning grateful that we live in a garden. Go outside and talk to your neighbors, who also realize that we live in a garden. You notice Greg has some peppers growing in his front yard. They'd taste great in an omelet. Feed the chickens, gather some eggs, pick some tomatoes, head over to Greg's place to trade for some peppers. Stop to talk to Annette along the way, who is gathering lovely smelling herbs to make essential oils that can be mixed into the soaps that Jane makes. This is a possible universe, and it's not as hard of a life as you may think.

We are constantly subjected to a barrage of negative images of what society would look like if the present system were to collapse. We are programmed to believe that if the means of production and transportation of goods were to fail suddenly, it would be every man for himself, a dog-eat-dog nightmare in which feudal warlords will control the wealth. This vision is repetitively reinforced by each new Hollywood post-disaster movie that comes along.

I say that we NEED the present system to collapse in order to see each other again. I have the audacity to believe that people are not as bad as Hollywood makes them out to be. For the past few decades, we have been conditioned by the media, govt, police, and entertainment industry to fear each other. We are convinced that we can't trust each other, that we do not need each other. Once we actually need each other again, everything will begin to change, and we will no longer be able to shut ourselves off from each other. We would quickly learn that our fellow man is not as bad as we've been led to accept.

Sure, there may be a period of great unrest, panic, violence and "mad max" scenarios immidiately following such a collapse, but people would quickly catch on to the fact that they can work together to build a much saner society in which the myth of scarcity has been dispelled. And by the way, in this world, hemp would be growing from every crevice.

From the NY Times

Duck and Cover: It’s the New Survivalism

By ALEX WILLIAMS
Published: April 6, 2008
THE traditional face of survivalism is that of a shaggy loner in camouflage, holed up in a cabin in the wilderness and surrounded by cases of canned goods and ammunition.

It is not that of Barton M. Biggs, the former chief global strategist at Morgan Stanley. Yet in Mr. Biggs’s new book, “Wealth, War and Wisdom,” he says people should “assume the possibility of a breakdown of the civilized infrastructure.”

“Your safe haven must be self-sufficient and capable of growing some kind of food,” Mr. Biggs writes. “It should be well-stocked with seed, fertilizer, canned food, wine, medicine, clothes, etc. Think Swiss Family Robinson. Even in America and Europe there could be moments of riot and rebellion when law and order temporarily completely breaks down.”

Survivalism, it seems, is not just for survivalists anymore.

Faced with a confluence of diverse threats — a tanking economy, a housing crisis, looming environmental disasters, and a sharp spike in oil prices — people who do not consider themselves extremists are starting to discuss doomsday measures once associated with the social fringes.

They stockpile or grow food in case of a supply breakdown, or buy precious metals in case of economic collapse. Some try to take their houses off the electricity grid, or plan safe houses far away. The point is not to drop out of society, but to be prepared in case the future turns out like something out of “An Inconvenient Truth,” if not “Mad Max.”

“I’m not a gun-nut, camo-wearing skinhead. I don’t even hunt or fish,” said Bill Marcom, 53, a construction executive in Dallas.

Still, motivated by a belief that the credit crunch and a bursting housing bubble might spark widespread economic chaos — “the Greater Depression,” as he put it — Mr. Marcom began to take measures to prepare for the unknown over the last few years: buying old silver coins to use as currency; buying G.P.S. units, a satellite telephone and a hydroponic kit; and building a simple cabin in a remote West Texas desert.

“If all these planets line up and things do get really bad,” Mr. Marcom said, “those who have not prepared will be trapped in the city with thousands of other people needing food and propane and everything else.”

Interest in survivalism — in either its traditional hard-core version or a middle-class “lite” variation — functions as a leading economic indicator of social anxiety, preparedness experts said: It spikes at times of peril real (the post-Sept. 11 period) or imagined (the chaos that was supposed to follow the so-called Y2K computer bug in 2000).

At times, a degree of paranoia is officially sanctioned. In the 1950s, civil defense authorities encouraged people to build personal bomb shelters because of the nuclear threat. In 2003, the Department of Homeland Security encouraged Americans to stock up on plastic sheeting and duct tape to seal windows in case of biological or chemical attacks.

Now, however, the government, while still conducting business under a yellow terrorism alert, is no longer taking a lead role in encouraging preparedness. For some, this leaves a vacuum of reassurance, and plenty to worry about.

Esteemed economists debate whether the credit crisis could result in a complete meltdown of the financial system. A former vice president of the United States informs us that global warming could result in mass flooding, disease and starvation, perhaps even a new Ice Age.

“You just can’t help wonder if there’s a train wreck coming,” said David Anderson, 50, a database administrator in Colorado Springs who said he was moved by economic uncertainties and high energy prices, among other factors, to stockpile months’ worth of canned goods in his basement for his wife, his two young children and himself.

Popular culture also provides reinforcement, in books like “The Road,” Cormac McCarthy’s novel about a father and son journeying through a post-apocalyptic wasteland, and films like “I Am Legend,” which stars Will Smith as a survivor of a man-made virus wandering the barren streets of New York.

Middle-class survivalists can also browse among a growing number of how-to books with titles like “Dare to Prepare!” a self-published work by Holly Drennan Deyo, or “When All Hell Breaks Loose” by Cody Lundin (Gibbs Smith, 2007), which instructs readers how to dispose of bodies and dine on rats and dogs in the event of disaster.

Preparedness activity is difficult to track statistically, since people who take measures are usually highly circumspect by nature, said Jim Rawles, the editor of www.survivalblog.com, a preparedness Web site. Nevertheless, interest in the survivalist movement “is experiencing its largest growth since the late 1970s,” Mr. Rawles said in an e-mail, adding that traffic at his blog has more than doubled in the past 11 months, with more than 67,000 unique visitors per week. And its base is growing.

“Our core readership is still solidly conservative,” he said. “But in recent months I’ve noticed an increasing number of stridently green and left-of-center readers.”

One left-of-center environmentalist who is taking action is Alex Steffen, the executive editor of www.worldchanging.com, a Web site devoted to sustainability. With only slight irony, Mr. Steffen, 40, said he and his girlfriend could serve as “poster children for the well-adjusted, urban liberal survivalist,” given that they keep a six-week cache of food and supplies in his basement in Seattle (although they polished off their bottle of doomsday whiskey at a party).

He said the chaos following Hurricane Katrina served as a wake-up call for him and others that the government might not be able to protect them in an emergency or environmental crisis.

“The ‘where do we land when climate change gets crazy?’ question seems to be an increasingly common one,” said Mr. Steffen in an e-mail message, adding that such questions have “really gone mainstream.”

Many of the new, nontraditional preparedness converts are “Peakniks,” Mr. Rawles said, referring to adherents of the “Peak Oil” theory. This concept holds that the world will soon, or has already, reached a peak in oil production, and that coming supply shortages might threaten society. While the theory is still disputed by many industry analysts and executives, it has inched toward the mainstream in the last two years, as oil prices have nearly doubled, surpassing $100 a barrel. The topic, which was the subject of a United States Department of Energy report in 2005, has attracted attention in publications like The New York Times Magazine and The Wall Street Journal, and was a primary focus of “Megadisasters: Oil Apocalypse,” a recent History Channel special.

Another book, “The Long Emergency” (Atlantic Monthly Press, 2005), by James Howard Kunstler, an author and journalist who writes about economic and environmental issues, argues that American suburbs and cities may soon lay desolate as people, starved of oil, are forced back to the land to adopt a hardscrabble, 19th-century-style agrarian life.

Such fears caused Joyce Jimerson of Bellingham, Wash., a coordinator for a recycling-composting program affiliated with Washington State University, to make her yard an “edible garden,” with fruit trees and vegetables, in case supplies are threatened by oil shortages, climate change or economic collapse. “It’s all the same ball of wax, as far as I’m concerned,” she said.

Scott Troyer, an energy consultant in Sunnyvale, Calif., said he was spurred by discussions of peak oil — “it’s not a theory,” he said — and other energy concerns to remake his suburban house in anticipation of a petroleum-starved future. Mr. Troyer, 57, installed a photovoltaic electricity system, a pellet stove and a “cool roof” to reflect the sun’s rays, among other measures.

Mr. Troyer remains cautiously optimistic that Americans can wean themselves from oil through smart engineering and careful planning. But, he said, “the doomsday scenarios will happen if people don’t prepare.”

Some middle-class preparedness converts, like Val Vontourne, a musician and paralegal in Olympia, Wash., recoil at the term “survivalist,” even as they stock their homes with food, gasoline and water.

“I think of survivalists as being an extreme case of preparedness,” said Ms. Vontourne, 44, “people who stockpile guns and weapons, anticipating extreme aggression. Whereas what I’m doing, I think of as something responsible people do.

“I now think of storing extra food, water, medicine and gasoline in the same way I think of buying health insurance and putting money in my 401k,” she said. “It just makes sense.”

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Where can I go now?

2008-04-18T02:43:30Z

My gf and I were talking about what we need to do now before the shit really hits the fan with our society. We came to the realazation that there has to be groups already in existence that may need and welocome new members. does anyone have suggestions along this line? Or are we going to be stuck by ourselves fighting for our lives and against the evil in the world?

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This is cool

2008-04-18T02:39:13Z

I do not know if any one would be interested but this is to cool
http://hexayurt.com/ .

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No more gun banning in national parks

2008-04-15T17:16:32Z

The Department of the Interior is about to submit paperwork for consdieration regarding their management practices. Amongst the changes is one that will no longer prohibit citizens from carrying weapons in national parks. Seems they used some beurocratic policy back in the day as a substitute for actual law and administratoively banned the carry of defensive weapons in many parks due to poachers.

You can google the info on the Knox report and get the specifics, but if you hike and camp then you need to be sure to comment on these changes to ensure they go through. There is no good reason law abiding folks should be feared just because they have guns. Criminals will carry nonetheless, but disarming law abiding citizens is no solution unless. Especially considering many of these areas are extreme wilderness areas.

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If you're feeling philanthropic

2008-04-13T04:43:48Z

read this post
tribes.tribe.net/backyardg...6faff3e635
It isn't easy asking for help but I thought I'd test if a virtual community had some concrete azpects of community in it. I humbly ask your pardon and your help.

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Firearm and ammo storage

2008-04-12T01:12:04Z

Just curious...anyone have any tips or recommendations for storing away their survival guns? Some of mine don't get used very often. What methods are being used to ensure your guns are staying dry, rust free, and protected? Most rifle cases are not airtight. Are large plastic bags the way to go? My attic is hot and dry. My basement is cool. I'm guessing the attic is best.

I have a little tip for ammo storage. Although its not an admirable habit, we all know someone who chews "snuff" tobacco. Those little canisters will hold exactly 50 22lr rounds and keep them dry and protected.

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My dream bunker

2008-04-08T04:35:12Z

I've had this dream of winning the lottery and building a super bunker. There is a company that builds condo-sized underground structures. I'd have 3; one for multiple family living, another as an underground garage facility, and the last for major storage. The complex would include an armory and a 100 yard target range.

While many people would try to add air filters & NBC equipment, I have trained enough on surviving in an NBC environment that I have come to the conclusion that the only to survive Nuclear, Biological and chemical situations is to get somewhere there is no NBC threat. Long term survival would require complex and cost prohibitive systems. It'd be cheaper to have a backup complex several hundred miles away than to try to survive an NBC environment.

So if you had the bucks, how many of you have ever considered having a really cool underground EOW complex?

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filtering sea water

2008-04-07T21:58:02Z

This product just showed up in sportsmansguide.com, it is a hand cranked salt water filter. you pump the thing and it'll get you up to a gallon an hour or so. $799 is kinda stout.

Rick, do you have one of these? When I was on the cruise the other day the ship had steam converters. What do you use on a small boat like your sail boat?

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Trucker's strike

2008-04-06T01:47:17Z

I just read a report that trucker's may strike on jan3. I've heard them talk this crap for year's but with diesel price's these day's it might be for real. I know Freightliner in Poplar Bluff has had to rent space to park the repo's cause most guy's are barely breaking even. I guess about 90 truck's in the last month is what I've heard. Owner operator's are going out of business anyway so they might as well shut down. and if the teamster's get behind it, you might want to stock up on some groceries. People are going to find out real quick they don't make the groceries in the storage room.

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videos worth watching

2008-04-01T05:39:35Z

Just wondering what you all think of these videos, and what videos you think are worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnpFfBMgfKU&feature=PlayList&p=EE92F50839402F5A&index=0 (bohemian grove exposed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3avVyf1OMjQ&feature=PlayList&p=EE92F50839402F5A&index=1 (The illuminati)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LEljS3ib84&feature=PlayList&p=EE92F50839402F5A&index=2 (Illuminati sybolism this one gets interesting after the halfway point)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NYQkUlkXfE&feature=PlayList&p=60EE5B3E98213D19&index=2 (how to start a fire using a potato)

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Alex Jones

2008-04-01T03:58:26Z

Do any of you guy's listen to Alex Jones? There was a guy handing out free cd's at the gun show a couple of year's ago and I watched about 15 minutes before I decided the conspiracy theories were a little far out there for me. He's a strong constitutionalist and survival minded person though and some of his point's are very good. I checked out his website a couple of times today and was wondering what some of you guy's thought about him.

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Sometimes it's so obvious that it escapes you

2008-03-29T08:58:56Z

I was writing out a list of needed survival equipment, trying to prioritize, when it hit me that I really, really should have fire ladders for our upper-story condo. I keep meaning to buy them and then forget or put it off. At least one for each bedroom, maybe one for the deck as well. I have fire extinguishers stashed all over, but an easy escape route would be quite practical as well. And fire blankets, those would be nice, too.

Sometimes its so easy to get caught up in finding fun new gear and toys that it's easy to overlook the practical, at-home stuff that is way more useful. I felt kinda silly when I realized that I was focusing on stuff that was better for a bug-out situation than securing my home.

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Some Survival link sites

2008-03-28T02:45:54Z

Ya'll may already know about these, but ran across a few interesting Survival link sites

http://www.earthmountainview.com/shelters.html
http://www.equipped.com/urls.htm
http://www.survivalsuppliers.com/links.htm
http://www.survivalring.org/buildfallout.htm

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.22 LR

2008-03-12T17:28:19Z

For those of you who have little or no appreciation for the lowly .22 LR:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=503007&gonew=1#UNREAD

In March of 1980, the Archbishop of San Salvador, Oscar Romero (an outspoken, militant leftist), was assassinated outside the city's main cathedral. He was killed from a distance of 80 metres by a single shot to the heart. His assassin employed a scoped rifle chambered for the .22 LR round.

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2008-03-05T02:50:56Z

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making use of foil wrappers/packets?

2008-03-03T18:51:33Z

been pondering this. Many food products come in a foil wrapper or packet, such as energy bars or hot cocoa envelopes. And many of the emergency or first aid kit items are foil-packed in single servings to help with the shelf-life. Even some potato chips have a foil-lined bag. Seems like there could be some use for these things once they're used, rather than having to pack them out or just discard them.

I'm thinking particularly in a 72hr bug out or long term survival issue. Some way to make these useful instead of trash. Foil reflects heat well, maybe there's some kind of insulation or cooking or warming that could be done with them? Some way to fasten several together kinda quilt-like to create a larger surface?

any thoughts on this?

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Sharp Tools

2008-02-26T02:30:03Z

You see a really great gun, water filter, knife, fire starting kit, book, and you think... "wow.. I want THAT because I want only the best when it comes to my own survival."

Watch this video and tell me what kind of fitness level you want to have!
http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=278

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Watched "Cast Away" yesterday

2008-02-26T02:24:58Z

In some ways this is the best survival movie I have seen. Because even though he makes, mistake after mistake he learns from them and never keeps thinking and never quits trying. I especially like how they jump ahead 4 years and the opening shot of that segment shows a fish swimming getting positively zapped by an expertly and powerfully thrown spear and then they pan up an the protagonist is now leanly and well muscled with sun bleached hair to his shoulders and a full beard only barely dresssed and you see he make the spear throw from a good distance. Then you see him eat the fish raw, almost like an animal, definately like a primitive man. I highly recommend this film for a DVD library addition.

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Batterys

2008-02-24T23:24:09Z

since im new this i have been looking studying. here is a link that has helped me understand basics in batterys

www.marine-electronics.net/techarticle/battery_faq/b_faq.htm - 132k -

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Constructive Comments Requested

2008-02-10T00:47:59Z

Dear Friends (some of you really are my friends)
As some of you know, I teach herbalism, but I also teach herbal survival to classes in my home and in some universities at their request.
I will be giving a lecture on the topic very soon, and I decided to give a preamble on the survival mindset. This is what I came up with, and I would be gratefully for comments on it. Please remember this is just a short intro to several hours of teaching. Thanks for you help.
Doc

Mindset for Survival

First we decide to survive. It may be a conscious or unconscious decision, but it is a decision. Once it is made the question of “how” comes into play. A hostage needs a different set of skills to survive than a person trapped on raft at sea. A soldier alone and separated from his unit behind enemy lines will have training a sole survivor of a plane crash in the high Sierra will not possess. A hiker lost in the wilderness may only need to survive long enough for a Search and Rescue team to find them, while a person who has survived a catastrophic disaster may realize that help might be weeks away.
Yet these individuals will have on thing in common. A survival mindset.
The mindset is not the decision to continue living; rather it is the combination of determination and experience that will make survival a possibility. It varies from person to person. It includes lines of morality which may or may not be elastic. A pacifist parent might kill an attacker who threatens their child. A vegan may bend to killing a small animal for sustenance. A caspar milquetoast personality can suddenly find a fortitude of physical and emotional strength they never imagined.
Religious or spiritual beliefs can help or hinder the mindset. It can bring hope or comfort in dark moments, or it can lead the person to believe that a deity of some sort will send rescue. This can dangerous when the situation requires only personal effort to survive. (Cynics may say that god helps those who help themselves, but in my experience god hasn’t helped anyone, so I must only rely on myself or those around me.)
The survival mindset is helped by knowledge, both practical and theoretical. Training in first aid, wilderness first aid, and outdoor survival is a practical consideration for people who enjoy the outdoors. Self defense and predator awareness (human predators at least) is a must for women and children in most urban settings. SERE classes can benefit employees of multi-national corporations as well as soldiers.
Today it is my firm hope you will take these lesson on herbal survival as part of your mindset. Plants can be utilized for food and medicines during the most dire of circumstances. But they can only be useful IF you make the decision to decide and have the mindset to do so.
So students…make your decisions NOW…and let us get started.

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Water - Prill beads

2008-02-08T02:02:02Z

does anyone have experience or knowledge on Prill Beads?

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/usa/precious-prills-special-p-729.html

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Vet medicine for people

2008-02-05T04:52:10Z

What are some medicines, vaccines, etc. that are difficult or impossible to stock up on due to prescription laws and red tape, but could be had as veterinary or farm supplies and used on people if needed? I'm thinking tetanus shots, penicillin, that kind of stuff. What is useful, what is NOT and can kill a human, and how do you cut the dosage from say, a horse, to a human level?

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Band Aids and Benadryl

2008-02-04T15:59:35Z

Build me the best medical first aid kit you can, on a $100 budget. Tell me what you'd stock up on.

And also, tell me about some awesome versatile stuff you like in your kit, A favorite tool, A hardware supply, or a type of medicine, and all the jobs it can get done.

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a backup resource for Survivalist

2008-02-02T19:14:30Z

Since Tribe has been having difficulties I realized it would suck to lose good places like this and the people in them. So I got proactive and made a "backup" site called Tribe Refugees, which includes some discussion groups to parallel favorite tribes.

I've created a Survivalism Group as part of the larger Tribe Refugees network. You can use the site as a place to:
- chat during the donut times
- "backup" your Tribe contacts
- retreat to should Tribe just finally kick it

You need to first signup for the site (Tribe Refugees), then join the Group (Survivalism -- which is just a matter of clicking the Join Now link).
Survivalism: http://triberefugees.ning.com/group/survivalism
Tribe Refugees: http://triberefugees.ning.com/

If you'd like more information about the Tribe Refugees site:
How to Join: http://triberefugees.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=1400844%3ATopic%3A25
About the Site: http://triberefugees.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=1400844%3ATopic%3A4901
Similarities between Ning and Tribe: http://triberefugees.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=1400844%3ATopic%3A6716

Please note: the site/group was intended to support this tribe, NOT compete or detract from it. I just thought you guys might like to know about it so you can bookmark it, or signup to squat your space, or go ahead and participate. :)

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do you know your gun laws?

2008-02-02T11:22:06Z

Re post chuck on the whats in your trunk thread.

"My eldest daughter lives in New Zealand, and has been burgled twice, mugged once, had tresspassers in her home three times. All in two years. The police haven't found any of her property, nor the perps, and have advised her not to resist if a tresspasser comes into her home, but call them. She was also advised she would be arrested if she attempted to expel the tresspassers armed with her pocket knife.
Does this seem odd to you?
She recently moved into an apartment with her boyfriend for safety. It was sad, as she truly enjoyed living in a house two miles from the Prime Minister."

I move around a lot, but mostly call Oregon my home. I have witnessed a variety of unreasonable reactions from law enforcement and the courts in response to home invasion and guns in general. My own experience led me to beleave im safer dealing with badguys hand to hand, than I am local authority having used a gun.

For example, this story stuck in my head. I remember living in Chico in northern Cali and reading in the paper about a man who had been shot breaking in to a 19 year old woman’s apartment, with the clearly expressed interest of rape, she shot him. He lived minor wounds and was arrested. She went to court before he got out of the hospital and was sentenced to 6 years suspended sentence for discharging a fire arm in side city limits attempted manslaughter and like four other B.S. charges I can’t remember off the top of my head. Three days after the trial she got pulled over while driving her car and was arrested again, this time for carrying a concealed weapon with a suspended license… in her inter view she said no one had told her that her concealed carry license had been suspended. She also said she had not been speeding or any thing els, nor at any time was she told Why she was pulled over in the first place, it was clear to her the cops didn’t like the idea of a girl with a gun, and knowing she carried pulled her over so they could arrest her for that alone.

Her suspended sentence was no longer suspended and she went to prison for 6 years… don’t know about parole or what not. And this is in a town where its not uncommon to see a gun rack or three in the back of a pick up. Or at least it wasn’t then, been a while since I was there. i never found out if the guy even did jail time, but i know he was only charged with B&E.

Any one els?

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epi-pen

2008-01-31T17:11:35Z

A specific subtopic to the first aid thread:

I may have to start carrying around an epi-pen. I hear they expire quickly, and keeping one in each car and in the house (or wherever each one should be) isn't as cost effective as simply keeping ONE on yourself at all times. How quickly do they expire?

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Off Tribe for Awhile

2008-01-29T01:38:48Z

I want to thank everyone for your advice on my last few posts (rants??). I'll be going off most my of my tribes for awhile, with the exception of the 2 I moderate. I've had a couple of months of good health, but as expected I'm in a pain spike now. It's hard typing and staying mentally sharp along with teaching and consulting with clients. So I'm going to focus on teaching, taking care of my clients, and moderating (what little I do)...and trying to get better. I have big plans for the summer and want to be in shape for them.
So I aint going away mad...just going away.
See you all soon.
C.

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Snakes on a plain!

2008-01-29T01:34:48Z

Yes plain, not plane.

You're camping in the backwoods... The places I enjoy are usually about two day's hike from help, what can I say, I love wilderness isolation. The more, the better.

Let's say you're in this situation, and you get a poisonous bite... Black widow living in the log you slept near, or brown recluse or scorpion under the rocks you disturbed in the dark, trying to build a heat reflector for your fire... or maybe a rattler catches you in the ankle after stepping over a boulder or dead stump.

What do you do? It seems I can ask four people and get five answers. The default answer, is of course, GET TO A HOSPITAL... or usually some stop-gap first aid to help while you are on your way to a hospital... but that's not always an option, you know? Take hospital out of the equation, and what can you do?

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chat rooms

2008-01-26T04:30:25Z

is there someplace where ppl from here gather in chat rooms or such?

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The Best Survival Herb

2008-01-25T18:10:41Z

I've gotten some private emails of late, asking what herb I would absolutely want with me in the worst survival situation. Being an herbalist that is almost an impossible question to answer. But I gave it a lot of thought and came up with one (1), uno. And believe it was not easy.
Usnea.
It's a lichen sometimes mistaken for Spanish moss. I've seen it from the west coast to the north east. There are various varieties but the ones I'm most familiar with are usnea barbata and usnea longimosa.
This is the penicillin of the herb world. Good for staph, bladder and kidney infections, pnuemonia, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-viral, anti-biotic. You can take it internally as a decoction, or a tincture, or topically as a wash or dusting...like old time sulfa powder used during WWII.
And last but not least you can eat it. It was used by the natives as famine food...the operative word here is famine. Yeah I've eaten...and it goes down easier fresh and steamed. Great roughage btw.
Back east I've heard it called Old Man's Beard...or sometime Bear's Beard.
So google a picture of it, and you hardcore survivalists, go harvest it. The stuff stays potent for years.

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Storing MREs

2008-01-23T23:30:29Z

I just bought a case of surplus MREs. How should I store them? I'm thinking some sort of airtight plastic thingy in the basement ought to be sufficient, yes?

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bird flu

2008-01-19T12:46:04Z

There's a possibility of a case of bird flu being spread person to person now. Say it spread's around the world in just a few month's killing million's of people. What kind of preparation's have you made or would you make to survive it if it spread's through your community? What kind of action's would you take?

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D.B. Cooper

2008-01-18T00:47:00Z

I've never paid much attention the the d. b. cooper story. I saw the movie when I was a kid. And the search for him in the movie "without a paddle" and know about the legend. But just recently the f.b.i. has put out another report suggesting Cooper didnt survive the jump. The last couple of day's I've been reading quite a bit about good ole D.B. and I think if he was any kind of skilled jumper he could have pulled it off. I've never jumped out of an airplane before but I thought someone here might know a little about sky diving. Do you guy's think Cooper was a paratrooper, trained to jump in foul weather, evade capture and survive or just some idiot who grabbed a parachute and bailed out of a plane not knowing where he was at or what he was doing? Alot of you guy's here that live in the northwest in seatle or portland or in between have probably heard alot about the story. What are ya'll theories based on what you know?

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A Shameless Plug

2008-01-12T18:25:08Z

As the majority of you old-timers know, I'm the director and founder of the California School of Traditional Hispanic Herbalism. Every summer my wife and I (mostly my wife) organize an herbal healing fest in the Sierra. It's 3 to 4 days of car camping at a nice National Forest campsite. Last year we made salves from local plants, a couple of tinctures, there were demonstrations of herbal dyes, lectures on California native uses of plants, a hands on lesson on wilderness first aid along with first aid plants, we learned about energy healing, drum healing (both courtesy of my wife), a student did body work on the attendees, and in general we had alot of fun. As has become tradition, my wife makes a large lamb stew and a large vegetarian stew one night for everyone.
At night, weather permitting, we do some star gazing, tell stories, and swap great stories...some are even true.
This is the 10 anniversary of the school, so we want to have a blow out of a good time. I hope some of you can attend. We haven't set up a date yet, but due to scheduling issues, it might be the last week of July or first week of August, depending on weather and plants.
If you want more info, please go to my website www.hispanicherbs.com
We don't really make any money on this, we just try to break even. I think we can accommodate about 10 to 20 folks maximum. So let us know soon. With luck, maybe we can meet!
best wishes
Chuck G.

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A reposting of "A Cold Weather Primer" as the cold weather has come

2008-01-05T01:06:51Z

it fell off the board so I thought I'd repost it.

I thought I would share a bit of knowledge about how you lose heat aka get cold.
The five ways the body loses heat are
Conduction
Convection
Radiation
Respiration
Perspiration/Moisture

Conduction is the physical process where heat is lost because you are touching something cold. So don't sit or lay on the bare ground, a large stone or a snow covered log. Put some insulation between you and it. be sure there is good insulation between your sleeping bag and the ground. If you're hunting in Winter bring a 3X3 hunk of carpet with pad stapled together to stand on if your standing on the ground. Put some kind of pad on the tree you're leaning on in the treestand or on the ground.
Convection is the heat lost from the wind blowing over/around you. So putting it simply, stay out of the wind. Use self made and natural occuring windbreaks. Put your camp in the wind shadow of same as well as your stands. Wear a windproof layer if possible.
Radiation is heat lost just because your standing it the great wide open. Even though you are clothed well with a hat, a scarf, gloves, etc. The heat still radiates off you. It also radiates out of your tent. Having some kind of roof above you will help reduce heat loss from radiation. That is also another reason to put a tarp over your tent not just to keep the snow off your tent but to be a radiation inhibitor/reflector. I've never personally tried it but those treestand umbrella roofs might help in this regard.
These first three are why it is urgent to get yourself a shelter in a survival situation. A proper shelter will get you off direct contact with the ground, block the wind and cover you to hold in radiant heat.
Respiration is your own breath. You take in cold air and exhale warm, moist air. The faster you breath the faster you'll get cold. Control your breathing. Easy does it in activities in cold weather. I've never had one to try but one of those fairly new heat exchanger face covers might be a good investment for the Deep cold Season. Slow, steady work is much better than rushing, grunting and heaving in gulps of cold air. This also brings us to the last...
Perspiration or sweating...to put it simply, sweating can kill you. While exercise can heat up your muscles and warm you all over, you must not sweat. You should be dressed in layers against the cold, so if you're working, strip layers. If you sweat strip and dry yourself with a towel if available. Not just sweat but any mositure is lethal in the deep cold. Rain, slushy snow or falling into water are all potentional killers. You need to get out of wet weather or the water, and get yourself and your clothes dry just as fast as you safely can. You have longer than you think before serious hypothermia starts. As long as you can, and are shivering you're in the self save-able zone. If you stop shivering and get foggy in thought you better have a friend with you or immediate rescue. A word here on wool. Yes it can keep you warm when damp but it sucks up a lot of water if you fall in . The same is true for most synthetic insulation.
Try swimming in any of it. You'll find it is the most exhausting activity you've ever tried. Extreme care must be taken when walking on ice.
So remember whenever and whereever possible don't sit, stand or lay on bare ground or object. Try to stay out of the wind. Keep under cover. Control your breathing. Stay dry, stay warm, stay alive.

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fire pistons

2007-12-31T18:42:21Z

I've never seen a fire piston work, or know how reliable they might be. The Wildwood survival site has some pretty cool how to instruction's about making a fire piston from PVC and a dowel rod or a large cattle type syringe. Have any of you guy's used a fire piston before? Or know how long they last?

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Home steading from a back pack

2007-12-31T16:28:43Z

I don't know what kind of scenario would cause a person to grab a backpack and head off into heavy mountain's and deep wood's and never come back. Maybe on the run from the cop's from too many speeding ticket's or just fed up with a socialist, pc, society. What would be the most important thing's you would take that you could carry yourself if you were going to pull a "Danial Boon?" A rifle and an ax and a big ole bowie knife? spices? hair dyrer?

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How much for a 'seat in the lifeboat'?

2007-12-29T03:30:57Z

Ok there is a big problem with being a serious survivalist as I see it,

Most people can either stay in the city and make money so that can afford supplies or move out the country where it is safer, but make far less money and so put less by.

If you are in the city you have access to more classes, people, supplies and for most people you also have access to a much higher income.

If you go out to the country you can prepare your location, get to know the land, figure out all the local plusses and minuses and build a position in the community.

But is Anyone interested in sharing?

How much is it worth to have a guaranteed seat at the table out in the country, in a “lifeboat” like location?

OR;

How much would you charge to let somebody else have a seat in your lifeboat, if you have one built?

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spices from nature

2007-12-27T00:04:38Z

Do you guy's have any tip's for spicing up the rabbit meat? maybe a little wild onion or some leaves from a mustard plant. What other kind's of flavorable plant's are good for camp cooking? What about acorn's? Has anyone ever tried to boil the bitterness out and grind them into flour? how did it work?

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ooooo....just missed us!

2007-12-24T03:10:24Z

An asteroid that missed earth (and was spotted until it was past us!!!!)...is on its way to Mars with a possible collision.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news151.html

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home made generator's

2007-12-22T12:51:01Z

I won a 5 horse briggs & stratton motor in a drawing over a year ago. I don't really need it for anything so I was curious if I rigged up a frame with some kind of pulley system with a belt and an alternator or maybe 2 if it would work as a generator. And of course a better muffler and bigger gas tank. Do you guy's think that would work? Come on thousand or any other mechanical geek's, what's wrong with it.

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winter supplie's in car

2007-12-18T23:44:09Z

My wife has alot of christmas banquet's to do this time of year and sometime's doesnt get home to after midnight. We have ice and snow moving in tonight so before she left I put a rubbermaid tub in the back of the old mountaineer with a few item's in case she has problem's on the road. I put a set of jumper cables and a couple of highway flare's in there. A tent heater with enough propane to last 24 hour's so she dont have to idle her engine, The tent heater will make you have to crack your window to let some cool air in. a 15 degree sleeping bag, couple of cigarette lighter's, .38 smith, in case a physco stop's, can of beef stew, she has a swiss army knife on her key chain and a cell phone. If the road's are bad that time of night there may not be another car pass by till mid morning. And there are alot of place's where a cell phone can't get a signal. Things like that are good to keep in your car all winter.

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Ballistic Vests

2007-12-16T02:44:50Z

I have no idea who'se interested, but for those of us who have lead allergies and are concerned about a risk of exposure to high-velocity-propelled lead, http://bulletproofme.com/index.shtml has the best prices on ballistic protection I've found, short of bargains here and there on ebay. Their service is also really good, and they're honest.

My job is nowhere near what you'd consider 'dangerous' or putting myself in harm's way, but it does take me all over the city, and generally many different cities around the country... in three years I've had two situations where I found myself looking down the barrel of a bad guy's gun, and at least one other where a gun was implied but not shown. I feel a lot better with a vest.

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New member

2007-12-13T09:28:08Z

Hello there I am new to this site, I am hoping to share ideas with like minded people.

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retreats

2007-12-11T21:45:23Z

my question is one im sure has been asked many times but id like to hear your opinions.
im looking at buying some remote acerage for a tshtf retreat its not a large area only five acres but is quite remote has primative gravel road acess, water timber ,and a good building site. it is in a mountian environment. what other attributes would you guys look for in buying shtf type property

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Off the grid

2007-11-28T06:18:31Z

Curtiss's discovered website had a ton of info pertinent to offgrid setups for your home. Seems to me that if you're planning on staying home, if your home is in an area that might be safe enough to stay there, setting up for off-grid life is possibly the best EOW preparation you could invest in. While everyone else's world is crashing down to a subsistence level of survival and camping, you could still have reliable, clean, healthy water pressure on-tap, and be cooking with electricity or gas at home, watching DVD's on your hi-def tv, keeping a well lit basement, not to mention electric shavers, battery chargers, and all the little things that will keep you comfy and well.

What else do you guys know about off-grid setups? resources? ideas? stories of neighbors or personal experience?

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Interesting Survivalist Article

2007-11-24T02:38:31Z

Hey I was sifting through some old email messages and came across one I sent to myself last year. I didn't have time to read it at the time. It is a link to an article written about "how to survive" different scenarios. The author actually wrote 8 different articles. They include some neat links for products you fellow survivalists may be interested in... such as the key-chain radiation monitor.

1) How To Survive a Disaster
2) How To Survive a Nuclear Bomb
3) How To Survive an Earthquake
4) How To Survive a Subway or Skyscraper Attack
5) How To Survive an EMP or Superworm Attack
6) How To Survive Global Warming
7) How To Survive a Dirty Bomb
8) How To Survive the Avian Flu, Smallpox, or Plague

http://www.slate.com/id/2148772/entry/2148773/

Let me know what you guys think of what he has to say. I think he makes a lot of good points.

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Hunter's

2007-11-20T17:15:24Z

Thought I would start a thread for hunting reports' since hunting is just about in full swing accross the country. I was sitting out in the wood's at 4 A.M. this morning perched on a bluff overlooking a small valley with a broken creek in it, about 300 yard's from a fescue field. About daylight I didnt see anything then I heard gunfire erupt off in the distance all around. I set there till about 9:00 thinking I might get a shot at one on the run but nothing came through so guess I'll take a stroll this afternoon and see if I can jump one up. "there's a fine line between hunting and sitting out in the cold like a dumbass" ha ha

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A Neat Website a kinda stumbled across

2007-11-18T01:45:34Z

They have some cool gizmo and a lot of info I thought might be found useful by us types.
www.knowledgepublications.com/

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survivalist beer

2007-11-15T23:02:22Z

okay, if you were on a sailboat after the shit hits the fan and left the mainland what island rescources could i employ to make some survivalest beer?

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Physical Conditioning

2007-11-15T00:21:03Z

You have your gun and your plan and your whole box of MRE's... In fact, you might even have a really shiny gun, and a really fancy plan, and a van painted like the 'A-Team' with 4-wheel drive and several cases of MRE's in the back.

But what happens when you hit a road block and have to hoof it for twenty miles to your bugout location before nightfall?

What about having to carry a sick or temporarily disabled child or family member?

What if youre running for your life from a mob of zombies?

Is there enough lean muscle under that beer gut you call ''survival energy reserve'' to get the job done? Or am I going to score a whole lot of MRE's and a really shiny gun off of your cardiac-arrested carcass when I come trotting along?

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Lion's and Tiger's and Bear's

2007-11-13T01:57:29Z

Has anyone here ever had a close encounter with a bear or mountain Lion? What kind of plan's do you have for a possible midnight altercation with a black bear in your tent? What kind of hardware for self defense do you have next to the sleeping bag? I've had 2 bear encounter's. one in my camp in central arizona. He didnt try to get in my tent and when we started stirring he ran away. The other I saw at about 300 yard's distance and he ran away too. I was canoeing the verde river in arizona and shot through a narrow channel surrounded buy cattail's. When I came out the other side I was face to face with a mountain lion that had come down for a drink of water. When I screamed like a girl he turned tail and ran up a 200 foot bluff in about 3 jump's. It was about the most awesome thing I have ever seen. But what if they don't run? Has anybody ever had to stare down a big cat while he's circling around deciding if your lunch or not? Or have to fight a bear trying to get in your tent? What kind of precaution's do ya'll take if it ever happen's?

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Valuable trade items?

2007-11-12T20:01:37Z

I want to brainstorm with people... Pick three or four or more items you think, would be very good bartering items post-EOW.

Obviously, these items would be useful post-eow... but also portable, storable, most likely neglected or under-stocked by others, and easily parcelled into measurable ammounts for bartering and trading at different values.

Sewing needles
1 or 2 oz bottles of bore-cleaner
.22 LR rounds
Fishing hooks w/setups and 10-20 feet of monofilament line
1-pound wrapped and sealed chunks of salt
small parcels of cooking spices (pepper used to be worth more than gold in some areas of old europe)

What else would you add to this list of things that would retain high enough value to be worth the bulk and storage if money lost it's value?

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More than one way to skin a cat!

2007-11-11T03:04:06Z

Instead of hypothetical scenarios and 'what would you do' stuff, I thought I'd open a thread to share some current practical knowledge. I, for one, could probably fumble my way through field dressing most mammals, but it would be sloppy, and probably take a lot longer than necessary. I'm sure there are many rituals and many ways to gut and clean different critters, mostly passed down in families and such. Let's compare em and see objectively, who has the best methods for different animals. It's something I for one, at least, think I could really learn from.

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MilSurp

2007-11-11T02:31:40Z

What do you guys think of MilSurp survival gear? backpacks, clothing, food, firestarter, weapons, tools, etc.

I, for one, am a big fan in the clothing and luggage department, and often find myself preferring the rugged over-reinforced stuff made mostly from the forty's to the seventies, rather than the alice and molle stuff on the shelves today, then again I have little experience with the new carrying systems and might appreciate some insightful reviews....

What are some odd items you've had experience with, that you would say are rugged enough and high quality enough to be worth considering for survival supplies?

What are some items you've had experience with, that you absolutely hated, and found something much superior on the civilian market?

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Putting up the catch

2007-11-11T02:15:26Z

I was home visiting my parents this weekend and my dad has had a decent run salmon fishing this season, so I helped him process the fish he'd brought home. We smoked some of it over a mix of alder and apple wood in his smoker, canned some in half-pints and pints, vacuum sealed some for the freezer, and barbecued half of a large fish then had my grandparents over to dinner. Now my freezer, pantry, and refrigerator are stocked with fish that was processed the same day it was caught - yum!

I need to remember to pick up angling tags for my fella and I soon so that we can take my daughter fishing next year. She's young enough that she fishes free. Man, I'd love some rainbow trout cooked over a wood fire!

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Preparing the next generation

2007-11-10T04:04:13Z

I know that several of us are parents and I have my own methods that I'm using to teach my daughter survival skills, but I'm curious to learn what other parents are doing to raise their children to be more self-reliant than the average American couch potato.

My daughter is very musical and artistic, so I tend to teach her by making up little songs and rhymes about concepts I want her to learn or we take our sketchbooks and go outside to draw pictures of native plants and animals. We go birdwatching (a prime opportunity to teach a kid to foxwalk), hiking, and camping. She's almost five so we're just getting into really hands-on things such as baking, simple sewing, and, yes, she helps me mix up all of the herbal cosmetic preparations that don't require heat.

I think the best lesson that I've imparted to her so far is that we can make almost anything she wants, we don't have to run to a store to get things. If she wants playdoh, we make playdoh; if she wants new doll clothes, we break into my stash of fabric, rags, and mismatched socks; if she wants cookies, we make them from scratch. She's very aware now of keeping good bits and pieces of what other people would consider trash for future projects. She sees the potential in random objects and materials.

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Outdoor Gear

2007-11-08T21:47:34Z

I was curious about ya'lls opinion of the different brand's of outdoor gear. Thing's like 4 season tent's, hiking boot's, water purifiers, back pack's, canoe material. And old school vs. new stuff. Other than being lighter, do you think a north face tent is better than an old army canvas pup tent? And what other kind of gear do you pack on a week long trip in the bush, What brand's and why?

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house hold item's

2007-11-08T00:48:53Z

When I look around the house I try to come up with other uses for some of the thing's I see. And what I could use to bug out to the bush if I were totally unprepared. Like using mouth wash to treat wound's or making fishing tackle out of my old ladies ear ring's or water proofing a shelter with shower curtin's and shower curtin rod's for spring loaded trap's, ceiling fan blades for boat paddle's, heat and air floor vent cover's for small grill's, using the flap's for temperature control. ha ha Everyone has kitchen knives to grab on the way out. Look at all the extension cord's and other cord's you could cut off appliances and bring for rope. I was just thinking last weekend I could use a metal flower pot holder of my wife's to use as a fire basket to hang off my canoe at night on a pole for night time gigging. I'm sure there's alot of people that don't hunt that have a 22 under the bed. pillow cases to haul the shit. What else can you guy's come up with to take out of the house for survival? Not counting the camping stuff in your closet.

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